Your Views for March 20

End corporate rule

More than 90 percent of Americans want background checks for gun purchases, and another 70 percent want to restrict assault weapons.

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Yet, despite the 7,000 children who have been murdered at school during the past five years, the NRA continues to get gun policies passed that serve only one end — to expand gun manufacturers’ profits.

Since the Supreme Court’s controversial Citizens United ruling, corporations are allowed to pour unlimited sums of money into influencing our government.

It’s not just that the NRA is an especially powerful bully that is undermining our democracy and endangering our lives — all corporations can be too powerful and/or unprincipled. Exxon Mobil learned in 1978 that its sales of oil products would put the Earth into the disastrous climate crisis we are watching unfold. And pharmaceutical companies were aware that prescription opioids could addict — and destroy — hundreds of thousands of lives. In these cases, as in so many others, the profit motive trumped all else.

In today’s America, some corporations have compromised our democracy and put life, itself, at risk.

The huge political power of the NRA should show us that we absolutely must find a way to stop big corporations from stealing our democracy and endangering our lives.

One antidote is to win a constitutional amendment to overturn the disastrous 2010 Citizens United ruling that allows corporations to give unlimited contributions to politicians. Another is to vote into office those who will protect us from corporate bullies. Vote.

Noelie Rodriguez

Ninole

Oh, the irony

The Tribune-Herald’s headlines on Wednesday, March 14 — “Trying to ‘strike that balance’” and “Council rejects rooster measure” — made me laugh out loud at the irony of those stories.

Our County Council members don’t have the courage to tackle the crowing roosters’ problem in rural communities, but they are more than willing to tax people who own vacation rentals!

Anyone who lives, or has lived, near a rooster farm knows which problem is bigger! And, if our county police force had the courage, they would confiscate roosters during the cock fights.

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Judy Stenger

Pahoa

  1. lazerhaze March 20, 2018 4:50 am Reply

    Judy Stenger, My advice for loud cock farms, A pellet gun and good aim or mix some chicken feed with rat killer pellets and scatter it about. No better rooster than a FRIED rooster.


    1. PUNATIC March 20, 2018 7:42 am Reply

      only problem with that ‘advice’ is that you can be charged with terroristic threatening as well as animal cruelty


    2. Corporate Hack March 20, 2018 8:13 am Reply

      go back to your red state where you belong


        1. lazerhaze March 21, 2018 6:03 am Reply

          ATTENTION VIOLENCE PRONE, WIFE BEATING, CHILD ABUSING, RAPE LOVING, SMALL PENIS HAVING GUN OWNERS: YOUR GUNS WONT PROTECT YOU FROM ODORLESS AND COLORLESS CHEMICALS IN YOUR AIR and/or WATER! You can be exterminated like the vermin you are and you’ll never even know what’s happening. SCIENCE IS A MORE POWERFUL AND EFFECTIVE THAN ASSAULT AND DEFENSE AGENT THAN A BULLET

          I’m not afraid of redneck bigots with guns. Small, shriveled, pathetic penis having Redneck bigots with guns likely don’t know the myriad of things that can kill them before they’ll ever be able to pull off a single shot to “”defend themselves’. LMAO!


          1. PunaPerson March 22, 2018 6:30 am

            Really?! I guess I missed the coverage of all the rapists and home invaders and carjackers and robbers and assaulters and all variety of criminal thugs using “odorless and colorless chemicals” in the commission of their crimes. I suppose the police are keeping that information from the media because it’s super-secret and would cause a panic.

            Glad you broke the silence and informed us all that we are defenseless prey to all criminals.

            Women and the elderly (oh, heck, everybody) might as well throw away their firearms now, knowing that they are useless against the “science” being used by criminals.


          2. lazerhaze March 22, 2018 7:54 am

            YES, REALLY. I’m so sorry you have a problem comprehending English. Let me be MORE CONCISE for you:

            The Austin bomber didn’t use guns to terrorize millions of Texans.. he used science and engineering. The cops guns didn’t stop the Austin TX Bomber, investigative science did.

            PERHAPS the crimes that are committed using science rather than the typical violent scare/fear bait crimes that gun nuts love to tout like “robberies and home invasions” are ABOVE the local KEYSTONE PIGS in Hawaii and especially on the big island to discover let alone investigate to completion and conviction.

            Here’s a PROTIP: There are many “criminals” to fear. The ones to fear the most aren’t the ones running around carting weapons and causing a ruckus. It’s the ones that are engaging in their criminal activities, right under your nose, smiling and looking you right in the eyes… that you need to fear and your guns can’t save you from them all.


          3. PunaPerson March 22, 2018 8:07 am

            You did manage to directly imply, amidst the mostly name-calling post, that weapons for self-defense are useless. Your argument appears to be that that is so because there are some relatively few crimes where self-defense with any weapon would be useless (e.g. bombs and poisons). The fact is that in most personal confrontation crimes (assault, rape, robbery, etc.) self-defense weapons do have the potential to deter a criminal, especially compared to having no weapon for self-defense.

            Whether the police, who virtually always arrive after a crime has been committed, are capable of “solving” the crime is irrelevant. All that matters in the moment to the victim is whether they have the best possible chance of thwarting the criminal attempting to harm them. The best tool for that defense of self is a firearm.

            Whether there is some conspiracy of smiling criminals or not, for those less-smiling criminals who physically harm people every day, the best means to attempt to stop that victimization is weapons, and the best of those is a firearm.


          4. lazerhaze March 22, 2018 8:12 am

            No. The best way to stop them is to create a world in which they never needed to commit crime in the first place or are able to get the help they need to prevent their progression toward criminal activity. You are a tool of the NRA. Whose mission is to sell guns. You are a fool. You’re far more likely to be KILLED BY YOUR OWN GUN THAN TO USE IT SUCCESSFULLY DEFEND YOURSELF. YOU’RE MORE LIKELY TO KILL YOURSELF WITH IT THAN DEFEND YOURSELF WITH IT. And at this point.. I can’t wait until you do.

            I call you names because you are not worthy of respect let alone common courtesy.


          5. PunaPerson March 22, 2018 8:49 am

            Thank you for continuing to demonstrate to readers quality of your “humanity”. I’m sure your rhetoric goes a long way to demonstrating to people that your “progressive” political views are valuable and an example for all to follow.

            Please let me know when your ideal world of no crime becomes reality, and then all of us who choose to have tools for self-defense will relinquish them. I’ll also be looking for the unicorns so I can keep one as a pet as a constant reminder that there are no people who harm others in the your brave new world.

            And by the way, your all-caps claims about the ratios of defensive gun uses to homicides of and suicides by gun owners with their own guns are completely false, by a long shot. Even Obama’s CDC report, executive ordered by Obama in 2013 acknowledged that there are at least 800,000 defensive gun uses per year, which is more that 20 to 1 ratio of ALL gun homicides and suicides, not just the ones where the gun was that of the victim. But I know that facts don’t matter to you, as your agenda is to pontificate with venal insults for a fantasy world that does not and will never exist. Thanks for sharing. I think readers get the gist. Buh bye.


          6. lazerhaze March 23, 2018 6:24 am

            You can suck Obama’s cock or suck Trump’s. I don’t care. You’re trash either way. Good riddance when you’re dead from your own gun. BYE!


          7. ghost March 23, 2018 2:20 pm

            I distill my own water with H20 Labs counter top water distiller. Steam distillation removes any harmful pathogens


        2. Corporate Hack March 21, 2018 8:45 am Reply

          open carry guns, pretend to be devout, religious laws…..is this the middle east or a red state in america?….oh, same thing…ok.


      1. lazerhaze March 21, 2018 5:32 am Reply

        Keep making ignorant assumptions about things and people you know nothing about. I’m not from a red state or even a red county. If you want to run your imagination about me I suggest fantasizing about me getting head from your father because he owes me money. If you want me gone. I suggest you grow the balls to DO SOMETHING to make it happen. Until then, I bet you drive in a big truck to compensate for your pathetic genitals.. like the rest of you “cock” farmers… always compensating for what you DON’T have.


        1. Corporate Hack March 21, 2018 8:31 am Reply

          Dear Fake American,
          Patriots have fought against people like lazerhaze throughout history. The Lazerhaze’s in every country infest it like roaches, in America we call you conservatives, in the Middle East they call you terrorists. But you are brothers. You are the same. You infest a country and attack from within.
          Our constitution says “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic”
          And a POS like lazerhaze is a domestic enemy.
          You will end up where you belong.


          1. lazerhaze March 22, 2018 2:06 am

            I AM NOT A CONSERVATIVE. I VOTED FOR BERNIE and every local democrat on the ticket. I donate my time, money and effort to the SAME POLITICAL IDEOLOGY AS YOU DO.
            Just because you dislike my opinions doesn’t give you the ability to blatantly DELUDE YOURSELF. PEOPLE LIKE YOU GIVE PROGRESSIVE LIBERALS LIKE ME A BAD NAME. If you’re a corporate hack, You’re the fascist conservative idiot here. I don’t work for a corporation. I have more RESPECT for myself. You need a shred of respect for YOURSELF.

            Here’s a PROTIP for you: You’ll make more progress politically and socially if you don’t attack your political and social allies because of ignorant assumptions you desperately cling to.


          2. lazerhaze March 22, 2018 2:09 am

            I am as American as you are. Born and bred. i’m not an idiot like you though, Desperate to LIE TO YOURSELF to justify your willful ignorance and self delusion. You’re as much a problem for America as the Trump voting fascists are. you do OUR SIDE no favors. I suggest you pick your enemies better. I’m NOT the one.


          3. lazerhaze March 22, 2018 3:36 am

            If you want an enemy. I’ll happily be yours. Where you live? Some musty, rotting, infested shack out in Puna? I know you hate guns so I won’t worry about being shot when I find you. If you want to get rid of me…. I SUGGEST YOU TRY DOING MORE THAN RUNNING YOUR CUM BUMPERS ON THE INTERNET. You do know the internet more than a place for you to talk like you think you’re smart and pretend to be intellectual and tough to compensate for you lack of genitalia but the internet is actually a tool and if you can speak it’s language. It can tell you a lot about the people you interact with online. More than you’d think.

            PROTIP: I’m one of those kids that got put in front of a computer at age six and then proceeded to teach everyone else how to use it. I’ll be seeing you….. sooner than you might imagine. Maybe I’ll “teach” you a lesson in computers.


  2. diverdave March 20, 2018 5:35 am Reply

    “Yet, despite the 7,000 children who have been murdered at school during the past five years” ?????
    Search: “School shootings are not the new normal, despite statistics that stretch the truth”
    Noelie, to have an intelligent conversation, let’s at least agree to start with the facts, and NOT just make them up.


    1. PunaPerson March 20, 2018 6:38 am Reply

      diverdave (I know you know this, but for others…), If they went with the facts they would find themselves baseless to argue for their agenda, well, I mean other than “feelings”. They have no choice, they have to lie or give up and admit they are not concerned about “safety”, but something else.


      1. Corporate Hack March 20, 2018 8:07 am Reply

        Dear Kremlin Stooge,
        More Americans have died from their own fellow Americans shooting them in the last 50 years …….then all Americans who died in all Wars fought by Americans…and you love it, hail Satan right?


      2. Corporate Hack March 20, 2018 8:12 am Reply

        . Conservatives are the same whether they pretend to believe in Allah or God..


    2. Corporate Hack March 20, 2018 8:07 am Reply

      Dear ISIS Stooge,
      More Americans have died from their own fellow Americans shooting them in the last 50 years …….then all Americans who died in all Wars fought by Americans.


    3. Corporate Hack March 20, 2018 8:12 am Reply

      Conservatives are the same whether they pretend to believe in Allah or God.


  3. PunaPerson March 20, 2018 6:27 am Reply

    Rodriguez repeats the lie recently put forth by Tulsi Gabbard about “the 7,000 children who have been murdered at school during the past five years”. That’s a complete fabrication. I defy Rodriguez or Gabbard to provide anything remotely resembling “research” to substantiate those numbers.

    Here’s someone who does just that. James Alan Fox, the Lipman Family Professor of Criminology, Law, and Public Policy at Northeastern. “There is not an epidemic of school shootings,” he said, adding that more kids are killed each year from pool drownings or bicycle accidents [not to mention car accidents]. There are around 55 million school children in the United States, and on average over the past 25 years, about 10 students per year were killed by gunfire at school [and that includes suicides], according to Fox and Fridel’s research.

    Let’s see, the professor says 250 killed over 25 years, Gabbard and parroting Rodriguez say 7,000 in 5 years. So is it 10 per year or 1,700 per year? How could we decide who is the most reliable source? Who has an agenda and a track record of lying, especially about firearms related legislation and facts? No brainer.

    As for that other made up statistic “More than 90 percent of Americans want background checks for gun purchases”, how do you explain that whenever such a measure is on the ballot at the state level it either loses or wins by 1 or 2% (Nevada)? I guess the 10% opposed use Russian bots to “interfere in the election”, right?

    I won’t even bother to discuss your nonsense about the fabricated propaganda term “assault weapons” and the claimed “70 percent” that want to “restrict” them. I bet that Rodriguez herself couldn’t even offer a valid definition of an “assault weapon”, considering every jurisdiction that uses that made-up term has a different definition, except for maybe “the thing that goes up”.

    SMH.


  4. Corporate Hack March 20, 2018 8:03 am Reply

    Noelie Rodriguez,
    Gun owners love their guns more than the children who are murdered.
    In fact, Gun owners don’t care about any of the children, they just care about themselves.


      1. Corporate Hack March 21, 2018 8:37 am Reply

        Hawaii does not like Anti Christians, please go to a Red State and be happy.


  5. Corporate Hack March 20, 2018 8:06 am Reply

    More Americans have died from their own fellow Americans shooting them in the last 50 years …….then all Americans who died in all Wars fought by Americans.
    Conservatives love that.
    Because Conservatives are America’s Enemy.
    They tried to bring America down with Bush, almost did it.
    Obama saved the big 3 auto, the economy, housing, jobs, etc.
    Then Conservatives attacked us again with Putin and Trump.
    This time, we will go into a Great Depression unless the Real Republican Mueller stops the Kremlin.


      1. Mary True March 20, 2018 10:11 pm Reply

        I don’t blame Russia. They are doing what they do. i do blame Americans though who are so gullible and loyal to their party that they can ignore the mounting evidence of Russian interference in our election and control of our president.


        1. PunaPerson March 21, 2018 5:46 am Reply

          Perhaps you missed it, but Clinton lost and is not president.

          Clinton campaign/DNC paid FusionGPS who paid Steele who paid the Russians for false information (the “dossier”) used by the corruptocrats in FBI/DOJ to lie to the FISC to establish false grounds for “special counsel”.


          1. Mary True March 21, 2018 6:57 am

            Somehow you missed that we are talking about our president, not Hillary. I couldn’t care less at this point what Hillary does. Our future depends on what our president does and he is one firing from being impeached. Even some Republicans are saying that. The Republicans spent 28 months and over 7 million dollars grilling Hillary and came up with nothing or she would be in jail. Now, the country is trying to get to the bottom of Trump’s relations to the Russians and the Republicans are stonewalling. We have a President who considers everyone an enemy except Putin. He was warned in capital letters by his administration not to congratulate Putin and turned around and did just that. He has refused to enforce the Congressionally mandated sanctions against Russia and instead has used Muller’s, who by the way has guilty pleas and indictments to show for his efforts, 13 Russians who already were accused instead. He refuses to show his taxes which most thinking people believe an innocent man would have turned over. He also acts like someone being blackmailed. Like Republican Trey Gowdy said. If you are innocent just cooperate with the investigation so we can settle it and move on. Your behavior makes you look guilty.


          2. PunaPerson March 21, 2018 7:48 am

            No, YOU missed that Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party were the ones involved with the Russians, not Trump. See my ultra-brief summary of who paid who for what and how that false information was illegally used as presented to FISC, which resulted in the Mueller appointment based upon that false information.

            I know you refuse to acknowledge those facts, but those are still the facts. You (and Maxine Waters, et al.) live in the fantasy world of “Trump impending impeachment”. I guess time will tell. I’m sure you’ll be much happier (should the Senate convict after impeachment by the House) with President Pence.

            The Republicans are stonewalling? Good one. What’s Adam Schiff doing?

            “Everyone one an enemy except…”… don’t need to read the rest of the sentence, as that’s absurd on it’s face.

            Exactly what were those 13 Russians accused of? Please tell us exactly what laws they broke, and what connections they had to Trump. Please be specific and link us to the legal documents that support your claim that those Russians and their crimes had any connection whatsoever to the Trump campaign.

            Trump called someone you don’t like? OMG!

            Please tell us what guilty pleas and indictments Mueller (not “Muller”) has against exactly who and exactly when the crimes were committed (as I’mm sure you know the crime(s) Manafort has been accused of happened years before the Trump campaign existed) and exactly how are the crimes for which he has guilty pleas and indictments specifically linked to the Trump campaign. Links please to the legal documents. I know, you don’t have any, because there aren’t any links because there aren’t any legal documents that show any links to the alleged crimes of Manafort or Papadopoulos or Flynn that are directly linked to the Trump campaign. But go ahead, show us what you got.

            You have nothing but pure speculation generated by your ideological prism of “progressive” fantasy narrative and/or “never Trump” hatred and disillusionment because your candidate (“the most qualified candidate ever”) was a loser.

            It’s not worth anything, but here is my pure speculation: IF, and it’s a big IF, anyone is convicted of crimes serious enough to be sentenced to prison, it will not be from the Trump side, but from the collusion-to-subvert-Trump side within the FBI/DOJ/DNC/Clinton campaign/FusionGPS cabal.


          3. Mary True March 21, 2018 8:13 am

            You are freaking hilarious. People on the Trump side are already being put in prison. Also when the prez doesn’t listen to his national security advisors I tend to get nervous. But the biggie is: Why does Trump act like he is guilty when he could easily put the whole thing to rest by being transparent.


          4. Corporate Hack March 21, 2018 8:43 am

            you cannot argue with trump supporters, they are the same people who almost destroyed america with bush, and having learned a valuable lesson…they are back at it to finish the job this time.


          5. PunaPerson March 21, 2018 9:04 am

            Oh, good. I’m glad you are amused. I suppose we will just have to wait and see who has the last laugh (I’m STILL laughing about Clinton’s loss and her never ending excuse making wherein she points fingers at everyone (now including weak white women incapable of thinking for themselves… quite the feminist there!) but herself… now THAT’S funny!).

            I did notice that you neglected to provide any answers to the questions or sources to support your claims, and have to wonder why. No, not really. I know why.


          6. Mary True March 21, 2018 9:34 am

            Because I don’t have that much time to waste on willful ignorance. All the information is out there. And you haven’t answered why the prez is acting guilty. You do know there are Republicans out there talking impeachment, but you don’t care. Do you? Since it doesn’t support your narrative.


          7. PunaPerson March 21, 2018 10:06 am

            Thanks for the name-calling. That certainly supports the factual nature of your claims. Yeah, you don’t answer because “the information [that] is out there” contradicts your narrative. Just write one sentence describing the crime(s) Manafort has been indicted for, when he committed the crime(s) and how that could be related to the Trump campaign years later. Just one sentence. I know, you can’t waste your time writing that one sentence. That’s what passes as a rational argument in your world. That and name-calling.

            Here, I’ll even write most of the sentence for you, all you need to do is add a few words and copy and paste:

            Paul Manafort was indicted for the crimes of __________, which occurred in the years ______________, and these crimes have been linked to the Trump campaign on pages ___________ of the indictment filed by Mueller on February 22, 2018. [Copies of the indictment are readily available online to check the validity of the above statements.]

            “Acting guilty”? That’s a judgment or evaluation on your part. It’s not in the least bit factual, nor could it be “proved”. It’s nothing but your opinion. Here, try this. “He’s not acting guilty.” See what I mean?

            The party affiliation of people “talking impeachment” is irrelevant. The question is 1. What are the motivations of people suggesting an impeachable offense has been committed?, and most importantly 2. Where is the evidence that an impeachable offense has been committed? Talk is easy. Let’s see the evidence and put it to a vote. You know, just like with Clinton when he was impeached. “Put up or shut up.”


          8. Corporate Hack March 21, 2018 8:38 am

            Dear Very Special Person,
            An RNC Donor hired Fusion, they found Treason, so they dropped it.
            A Patriot picked up on then, and here we are.
            13 Russians Indicted.
            Do Trump Voters Care?
            NO, they are traitors, and should all get the Death Penalty for Treason.


  6. Lewis_Wetzel March 20, 2018 8:08 am Reply

    If you want to buy a handgun in the state of Hawaii, you will go to a shop that sells guns, pay the proprietor, leave without your gun, go to the police station with paperwork from the gun shop, wait in line to get yourself photographed & fingerprinted, wait two weeks for the background check + dead time (they always make you wait two weeks, the maximum the feds will allow), go back to the police station & pick up your paper work, and return to the gun shop. Only then will you be able to pick up the gun you’ve already payed for & take it home.
    Good luck finding a place to legally fire it.
    This letter was a waste of newspaper space.


    1. Corporate Hack March 20, 2018 8:11 am Reply

      And then a Certified Armed Guard, who was Certified in his state to Carry 2 Firearms, may shoot and kill 49 people and wound 58 others…all by himself.
      ISIS loves American Conservatives, because Conservatives are the same whether they pretend to believe in Allah or God.


        1. lazerhaze March 21, 2018 5:54 am Reply

          LMAO! You scum think your pathetic small penis compensation (guns) will protect you? LMAO! You do know that all “someone” needs to get rid of you “patriots” is to secretly poison your home, food or drinking water with easily obtainable, odorless, colorless, tasteless chemicals that can put you in a coma very quickly and your (dick replacements) guns will never shoot a single bullet


        2. Corporate Hack March 21, 2018 8:41 am Reply

          no, but you can apologize for being a fake patriot.


  7. dakine March 20, 2018 8:57 pm Reply

    More children and young adults 20 yrs and under are killed by distracted driving every year than getting killed by gunfire in schools. The main culprit, according to the Center for Disease Control, for distracted driving is the cell phone and the worst offenders are people 20 yrs and under. We would save more lives if we banned cell phones to anyone 20 yrs and under than banning any type of firearm.


    1. Corporate Hack March 21, 2018 8:34 am Reply

      Dear Clueless and Loving it,
      Yes, ban cell phones, but while we are at it, lets protect children trying to learn in schools, and not by placing an armed guard in there like the Certified Armed Guard who killed 49 people all by himself, and wounded about 60 others, in just a few minutes.


  8. lazerhaze March 21, 2018 6:11 am Reply

    No better gun nuts than the ones who die by their own bullets (which is most likely because american handguns are most used in suicides) and do the only thing they ever could to #MAGA.


    1. Corporate Hack March 21, 2018 8:36 am Reply

      maga = Make America Gay Again?
      Ok, i noticed you love the word Cock, you used it in two of your 3 posts…jus sayin’…..i bet you hold a cock in your hand a lot more often then a womans…well, you know, you probably just grab those….like Comrade Trumpinski


      1. lazerhaze March 22, 2018 2:01 am Reply

        What you got against gays? You upset I’ve got more cock between my legs than every “MAN” in your entire family and more cock up my ass, in my mouth and hands than every “WOMAN” in your pathetic family.

        When it comes to Trump, He and you make america greater when you’re both EXTERMINATED like the SUB-HUMAN VERMIN you are. You can go back to tossing your “comrade” Putin’s salad now. If america was gay.. it would be BETTER than it is TODAY.

        If you’re going to “come for me” I suggest you, check your LIPSTICK… BEFORE you come for me.


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